your segments, i heard dana say candidates do matter. i agree with her, not you, in this case. candidates do matter. this is like pa 18 which we watched and talked about, conor lamb vrersus rick sa cone. i've been following this race for a long time. one of my very good friends, tim kaine, ran in the primary there. i've been dialed in and watching this evolve over time, and look, i'm not sure that balderson was the best, strongest candidate that emerge the. but here you got it. this isn't really about the president. it's about the individual candidate. all these elections, especially special elections -- >> have you looked at the list of guys who have held that congressional seat? ohio has been -- this has been a gop seat for all about two years in the last four decades. >> i get it, chris. chris, guess who won that district in the last presidential election? not the trump presidential election. who won in 2012 and by what