with the guccifer pseudonym who was effectively a russian spy, so there are connections and that's just the tip of an iceberg that robert mueller has seen the bottom of and all the underneath of and we haven't. >> when you look at, you know, michael, andrew miller, christine davis, this wikileaks back channel, what does it say when all of these people, your aides are being subpoenaed and you haven't at all, as of today, been contacted by investigators. that cannot be a good sign. >> no. it could indicate that roger stone is, in fact, a target of the grand jury and normally targets of the grand jury are not brought into the grand jury unless they're notified that they are a target and given the opportunity to try to convince the grand jury not to indict them. there are a lot of blinking red lights around here.