defense team to wrap it up without calling a defense witness. is that a sign of weakness of their case or confidence? >> well, it is very common for defendants to try their cases through the cross-examination of government witnesses and not call witnesses themselves. it is even more common for defendants to be convicted because they really don't have an answer and the issue here is not so much that they didn't call witnesses, the issue here, as far as i can tell, is manafort doesn't have a defense. the evidence here is that he cheated on his taxes. the evidence here is that he misled and lied to these banks. obviously, they are going to point out that -- they're going to say that rick gates is a terrible person and rick gates is a liar, but the documents don't lie and the documents show that manafort did what he's accused of and that's why i found this whole trial deeply