and we heard it in a different way -- i thousand if the 2016 campaign, if that had come out after the access hollywood tape, that might have taken trump down. i think it would be too much for the country to accept a president who said the n word and grabbing women by the genitals. i've already heard conservative commentators and others making excuses for this saying, well, it depends on what context he said it, and no, it shouldn't matter what context he said it in, it's not acceptable at all. that makes me believe that it's not going to matter to a trump loyalist even though it's wrong. it reinforces what we already know that he's a bigot. >> i think i know scott well enough, context wouldn't matter, can i just -- you probably wouldn't -- >> scott's one of the good ones. >> am i right? >> yeah, look, this tape would matter, i mean, i -- i know it's -- everybody's saying it wouldn't. it would matter, it would be painful for millions of americans, including myself to hear the president of the united