whatever reason, i flashed on an incident from the 1990s, when boris yeltsin grabbed the baton from the band leader and tried to lead the band. everything fell apart. trump thinks he's able to do anything. and it's a result of having yes men and yes women around him for so long. it's a preposterous claim. >> you have the president today saying even if i am telling the truth, that makes me a liar. you have giuliani saying, truth isn't truth. i mean, it seems like we're operating in some alternate universe sometimes. i used the term orwellian, but these are literally things he would have written. >> i'm starting to see giuliani as a left bank intellectual. in philosophy, there's something called coherence theory. especially postmodern philosophy, the idea that if everybody agrees on something, then it's true.