public pleaded guilty, admitted before a judge under oath he was doing this on behalf of the president of the united states. >> you know, it's very interesting. you make a good point. the deputy u.s. attorney in new york, he was presiding -- he was in charge of the prosecution. the u.s. attorney jeff berman recused himself because he was named by president trump. and he thought that would be inappropriate. joey jackson, give us your reaction to what we heard. >> devastating. look. here's the issue. we know that this was a plea agreement. in light of that, there's an allocution. you indicate what you did. in the indication, michael cohen, of what he did. he said he abouted at the direction of the president. now, very critical, didn't say that but it was of and concerning and clear who he was talking about so let's be clear about this. it's not a trial. now it has the same import of a trial pleading guilty. as if you went to trial an