during the campaign -- >> take the bullet. >> yeah. saying things which were, you know, false but he would -- he was an attack dog for the president to now suddenly say he believes the president's a danger to the kun sflicountry? that's a 180. >> there are people in life that have transformtive experiences and they're sincere and there are people that continue to lie and are opportunityists. you have to judge which is which when you use instincts. i took a while in making the judgement that he was ready to talk about mr. trump and his knowledge about mr. trump and the disadvantages that he now saw that as a businessman were very dangerous as president. now whether he's telling the truth or not is anybody's judgement. and your skepticism is certainly not only entitled founded on what he did in the past.