witness. this is president trump tonight and he is playing down that relationship. >> michael cohen, tell me about your relationship with him. >> he was lawyer for me -- one of many. they like to the add the fixer. i don't know where that term came from but he's been a lawyer for me. did small deals. not somebody that was with me that much. i understood michael co well. he wasn't a lawyer, frankly. but he was probably with me for about 10 years and i would see staoeubgs. >> so will that strategy work? down play thing relationship. >> and the reason is because donald trump basically was a family endeavor. tprrbsz when you're paying off a
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