seminaries and priests. still, though, we're waiting to hear from pope francis what did he know and when. and many including editorials in this country believe that pope france should speak publicly ability that time frame. >> yes, and catholics across the globe don't think the response has been good enough to this point. is this a watershed for pope francis, his greatest challenge perhaps? >> rosemary, i think this is his greatest crisis in the last century of the global catholic church. so it certainly is a watershed moment for pope francis. how he handsels this sex abuse crisis, and many say he's too late in handling it already, may very well define his -- all this will be overshadowed if he does not deal head on with this sex