carolina's hurricane history." thank you so much. we know folks are preparing there. we show jujust showed the histo some of the most devastating storms. what can people learn from these past storms? >> well, don, there are a lot of lessons to be learned. unfortunately these storms keep coming. our problem is really permanent and repetitive. so i could add a number of others to the list you just described, and it's sort of a rogue's gallery of disasters. here in north carolina, we rank third in the nation in the number of hurricane landfalls. so the area where florence is coming in, sort of on the southeast coast there near the south carolina line or maybe even into myrtle beach area, that is a region that has seen a number of these storms. fran was a landfall near there. hazel came right through that region. so it's been a hot spot for some time. >> so florence, it's a strong category 3 at this point, and it could bring a storm surge of up to 13 feet, jay.