joining me now is jay barnes. he's the author of "north carolina's hurricane history." jay, it's so good to have you here. thank you so much. we know folks are preparing there. we just showed the history of some of the most devastating storms. some we didn't get to because they didn't reach the level of these storms, but what can people learn from these past storms? >> well, don, there are a lot of lessons to be learned. unfortunately, these storms keep coming. our problem is really permanent and repetitive. so i could add a number of others to the list you just described, and it's sort of a rogue's gallery of disasters. here in north carolina, we rank third in the nation in the number of hurricane landfalls. so the area where florence is coming in, sort of on the southeast coast there near the south carolina line or maybe even into myrtle beach area, that is a region that has seen a number of these storms. fran was a landfall near there. hazel came right through that region. so it's been a hot spot for some time.