>> one thing that i think is credible is six fbi background checks over a 12-year period, 8 years of which president obama in charge of the justice department. >> they talked to people but they missed this because she hadn't come forward. >> if it was a pattern of abusive behavior -- >> pattern isn't the standard. one is enough. niger, god forbid one of our kids, somebody we care about, one is enough. >> let me make this point, then i'll hand the ball back to you. what we're talking about here is very serious. i do believe that dr. ford legitimately believes this. i don't know that it's true. i don't believe it's true, but i do believe dr. ford believes there was some traumatic incident that occurred 35 years ago. this traumatic incident is potentially assault, it is potential gang rape. that kind of behavior by an individual in high school, it doesn't just go away. >> she never said gang rape.