and i think having an outside counsel, given how sensitive this is. remember what we're talking about, anderson. we're talking about an allegation. and her side has used these words of "attempted rape." we don't need anybody making points back home, whether on the democratic side or the republican side if what we're trying to do is to find out what happened. because we're talking about a lifetime appointment. we won't be able to do anything about it afterwards. we've got to do it now. >> it doesn't seem like there's anyone on the republican side, though, on the committee talking about bringing in any other potential witnesses other than these two. >> well, anderson, you've got to do one of two things. you've got to have the fbi investigate these witnesses. for example, mark judge. somebody's got to talk to him. or you've got to have a real hearing where these people come before the public. those are really the only two alternatives. somebody's got to investigate those witnesses who are relevant