release of the transcripts of the witnesses in the russian investigation. the republicans refused. mr. nunes refused and mr. gowan refused. all of a sudden they wanted to go on fox news. what precipitated this? was it the manafort guilty plea? did the lawyers say we want access to this? because the very next day the president himself issues this injunction he wants classified documents released, a whole different set of classified documents. this looked like a coordinated effort. >> for those who believe there's a deep-seated conspiracy against the president, didn't this kind of fit into that idea? >> well, it could fit into a completely different kind of idea, and that is that the president is so unstable that lifetime career public servants who have worked in democratic administrations and republican administrations, many of whom are republicans like rod