that renate alumni was just a gesture of friendship and respect for a young woman they knew, and he even turned it around and got angry that anyone would imply otherwise. that doesn't pass the smell test. david's right that probably doesn't go all the way to perjury although i'm not sure exactly when it is you say you've gotten to perjury. but it is a degree of deception that i don't think we can square with someone who should be on the highest court in the land, and i think if jeff flake is honest with himself, he'll reach that conclusion. the question is will he be joined in that conclusion by senators collins or murkowski? they need two of them and then it's over. >> frank, david and robin, thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> in the midst of all this controversy over brett kavanaugh, guess who is back? stormy daniels. a source telling cnn new details about president trump's efforts to keep her quiet. her attorney michael avenatti here to talk about it. ♪