this is a win for this brand, the trump brand and for the republican brand now. regardless of who it hurts. by any means necessary. this is a win. they're trying to show strength. but the question is are they going to try to heal and help women before you go into -- or those who have been sexually assaulted because there's a big wound out here and people are very concerned about this -- >> that doesn't work for -- that doesn't work for this president. it doesn't work for the core. they want him to stand up to those democrats and they want him to do exactly what he's doing now because they want to stay in power and -- >> but don, i want to reiterate -- >> you keep asking, april, are they going to heal. it's not going to happen. i'm sorry. >> but don, let me say this. the day of -- and we cannot forget this. the day that dr. ford gave her testimony the president of the united states went against what we knew -- >> it was written. another written moment. >> kellyanne conway came out --