ideology, hateful ideology they're driven by or consumed by. they're going to do something now that's more difficult. going to an undefended synagogue. >> as we look at the images, most of the images we see of first responder vehicles of that of arrival. we haven't seen ems trucks that have departed with, say, the injured. is that unusual? is it likely anyone being attended to will take place on the scene as opposed to transporting? >> i think timingwise this event occurred around 10:20. we're an hour into it now. they might have been able to get develop it's out of the inner perimeter fairly quickly if they had this person, if they had an inner perimeter setup where they had this individual boxed in and made the arrest right away. they probably got those individuals to hospitals as