going to be a very viable candidate and lead this party, if he so chooses and can garner that support. but andrew gillum and stacey abrams and beto o'rourke did not lose. all right. and i know that they may not have won these particular races, but they fundamentally rebranded the democratic party. i moon -- mean, stacey abrams and andrew gillum showed that you can have progressivism in a black idiom. beto o'rourke showed, if you have this grassroots movement, no matter where you are, if you touch 100 counties in texas and you have that energy and out here showing that you can have not only the hollywoods and the willie nelsons showing you can have the bubba who drives a truck that you have an opportunity -- >> yeah, but you have to actually win, though. >> a winning national message. >> but let me just tell you this, without those three individuals, you don't flip the house. so, i mean, we can sit here and say that they lost their elections, they did. however, you're not winning in the suburbs -- you're not winning the chaletla seats in florida. you're not winning the allred races in texas. you're not winning the lucy mcbath race in georgia.
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