but there is pay off because a lot of them are doing the same thing i'm doing. they are covering an anxiety or some sort of social awkwardness that makes it hard for them so there is a relatability. >> do you think there could be a time you don't need captain boon and you can go to big venevents sean? >> that's the goal, to keep stepping forward. it's a progression of how i work on myself and how i've been fighting anxiety. >> is that why you did the panel? >> yeah, i have all this experience. i have to do something with it, and it's better to purposetive in the world than to continue eating away at the negativity. >> so this has been good? >> this has been really good. >> while sean digests all he's experienced, alison and john are