know, the thing that's stunning about this to me is there is incredible hypocrisy. she knew this was a huge issue. and then to go and just disregard it as though you're above the rules is problematic. >> the arrogance. the incredible arrogance with a little measure of stupidity. thinking that after watching this campaign which she had a pretty good seat for and then not being scrupulous about your e-mail practices is pretty remarkable. >> she didn't know. she didn't know the rules coming in after a year of a campaign. >> which just seems incredible. and having sat through all those campaign events with her father where all he talked about were personal servers and personal e-mails. it's a big difference between her and hillary clinton. hillary clinton should have obviously also known the rules. she was the secretary of state. but we've lived through years of this conversation nationally. >> by the way, earlier there were similar reports about jared kushner, her husband, doing something very similar. i think it just underlines what