with hillary clinton, it was a range of things. there was the e-mail server issue and the constant being around the approval by u.s. officials of a uranium deal. officials with the company had given money to the clinton foundation. there's never been any evidence of impropriety. this has continued to be a thread that her critics have tried to poke. that was one of the areas. again, i think this went dark after he was warned against it. but it is a reminder that when donald trump wants to go ahead with something, he will keep going until there is some kind of cattle prod that shocks him. in this case, it appears to be his own future. >> don mcgahn taking evasive as you put it, that cattle product. >> don mcgahn wrote a memo making clear the parameters and also what could happen if you