the way you dress. she doesn't want you to be, like, "oh my gosh. i love her hair. oh, her earrings! oh! the watch!" no, you see us as something threatening but we are just here in peace. ♪ >> anthony: what about women's roles here, traditionally? in many of the african countries that i've been to often you will see the man walking up front and behind the wife and the children, you know, carry, carrying the, the bucket of water or, you know, laden down doing the work. >> fama: i mean, here, in dakar, you're not gonna see it. [ laughter ] >> anthony: you say that with a -- with determination. >> fama: oh, yeah. oh, yeah. i am definitely sure about that, okay? >> anthony: as if you will personally ensure that you won't. [ laughter ] >> fama: yes. seriously, i think it's time for women to change the face of senegal. >> anthony: why not now? >> fama: they are not ready for that right now.