and talk about why we're here which i think is evidence of the failed policies of enforcement only as the way to address what is really a humanitarian crisis. >> is that weight of weeks or months a normal amount of time? obviously they made the asylum process more difficult. >> certainly the way it's been working in past years is that you would actually be able to state your claim for asylum very quick quickly at times where you were apprehended between ports of entry or you went to a border station and in fact made your claim of asylum. now you're exposed to waiting much, much more than would have been the case even frankly weeks ago. >> steve, is that -- i know you've been critical on some of