debate with hillary clinton. you know, this guy's putin's puppet. all of a sudden, you see the president go, puppet? i'm no puppet. you're the puppet. i'm no puppet. you're the puppet. look, that is this kind of reflexive, you know, instinct of his. but, look, it was just confirming once again that what we feared is true. this is a job that has always been occupied, literally without exception in the modern era, by people obsessed with information, control, detail, understanding, leverage. we do not have that now. >> i tell you what. it's shocking to me when people leave the administration, and they say, well, i couldn't believe this and this happened, and oh, my gosh, he didn't like to read, whatever. all of these supposedly really smart people, and they didn't know that beforehand, and they made excuses for this president? then they should just be on their own. listen, my own mother, who worked for exxon for 30-some years, who worked with rex