over the next 24 months and you'll need somebody in there that will defend you and recruit people that are loyal to you. >> even cabinet level. he said he was going to clean up the swamp but he's introduced more alligators we've ever seen. >> i don't think so. he went with people -- i think the president's core mistake is he went with people in government. core mistake. >> the turnover has been gross, the malfeasance, the misfeasance -- >> entrepreneurs turn over. >> you have a guy running hud that is a surgeon. you want to put your personal pilot in at the faa. >> he seems stable. dr. carson seems stable. >> he hasn't created scandal. that's not usually the bar of success. >> get the gun back on the bird of the president and what he's going to do.