going to veto it. while the house can move quickly that, doesn't portend the end game. it's the next step in a fight no one is sure is going to end. >> not any time soon and we are not talking about political gainsmanship, but real world impact. tell me about that. >> nobody is here on the hill and shuffling back and forth between meetings. when you talk to people involved in these in the past, they recognize because of the holidays and because of the timing, the bite of the shut down has not kicked in, but it's going to. we see the 800,000 workers furloughed or considered essential and working without pay, the first paychecks affected will be january 11th. some will see less money in their paychecks starting today. you have one issue they pay a lot of attention to, the flood