and say, why did i do that? why did i react that way? i'm not homophobic. but we all need to dig deep. that comes from what we're talking about, this bigger conversation, where throughout your life, sometimes communities of color, you're fete thid thin taught things or hear things at home that may sit with you. even though you think you're bigger than that, they still haunt you. that's one of the things, to bring it back around to what we were talking about with kevin, he said, i had those things happen. but in the interview with ellen, one of the things he said, was, i have been doing the work since i said that. i have been evolving. i've been showing it through my actions and the man i am today. and i would hope that people would say, he said those things. but what has he done in the ten years since to make himself a better person? do we see that manifested today? i think people can evolve. i think this is an important