i'm not homophobic, but we all really need to dig deep. and that comes from what we're talking about this bigger conversation where throughout your life, sometimes in communities of color, you're fed things or you're taught things or you hear things at home that may sit with you. and even though you think you're bigger than that, they still haunt you. so i think that that's one of the things, to bring it back around to what we were talking about with kevin that he was saying, yeah, i had those things happen. but in the interview with ellen, one of the things he said was i have been doing the work since i said that. i have been evolving. and i've been showing it through my actions in the man that i am today, and i hope that people would say, okay, he said those things, but what has he done in those ten years since to make himself a better person? and do we see that manifested today? so i think that people can evolve. i think that this is an important conversation to have. it breaks my heart that we still have to have it in 2019, but we