president, change course? >> ink it think it's rumblings spoke to lisa murkowski and she said she was going to bring this up not that she would get into a policy back and forth, but it's the issue of people are already coming into their offices and people are being affected by this shutdown and this is the wrong way to go, and we need to reopen while we continue to resolve the differences and those calls will start to grow. what will be interesting to see is in the past when there have been differences between republicans and the president on capitol hill when he goes to these senate lunches, oftentimes they will hold back and not say anything to his face. he's the president and he gives his monologue and maybe takes questions and maybe doesn't, you don't hear a lot of direct pushing on the president during these moments and it will be interesting to see whether he actually gets some of that today from people like senator murkowski and others and whether that affects their strategy because right now as abby said there isn't a strategy.