thought it was really telling that the administration was taking steps to ease the pain on some of its own constituencies. that's telling you that pain is something they felt they need to do avoid. farmers who were getting transfer payments to help them because they were suffering as a result of the president's trade war, right? that program got locked up. they ended up extending the deadline to apply for it. so the reason the white house is moving to ease the pain on their own constituency tells you that's a financial lever. >> and despite the 800,000 federal workers going without paychecks, federal contractors are not guaranteed pay when the shutdown ends. the house is essentially taking that up as we speak, but it's the contractors who are not guaranteed back pay. >> you say maybe i'm for the wall, maybe i'm against the wall, the politicians should work this out under these