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unthinkable is actually not unthinkable? >> and then, ronado, isn't that what the fbi is supposed to do? things that raise suspicion, follow up on it. "the times" spells out this was quite methodical, painstaking, saying that back in 2016, the fbi -- i'm quoting now from "the new york times" -- held off on opening an investigation into them, the people said, in part because they were uncertain how to proceed with an inquiry of such sensitivity and magnitude. so it sounds as though they were trying to check themselves to make sure that this was justified, these kinds of inquiries were justified. because so much would be at stake. >> well, can you imagine the difficult situation the fbi was in, fred? i mean, how challenging this must have been for them? you have these men and women working at the fbi. they're deeply concerned that

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