controllers that are currently working. on a good day it's a stressful job. it's a very stressful job. there's a lot to think about. >> i can't imagine. and the people that fly appreciate all of you very, very much. it's amazing what a wonderful job they do. if, though, the shutdown goes on and on into february. we've got the super bowl coming in, what then for air-traffic controllers? >> you know, at that point it's not even really an air-traffic controller issue. it's a human issue. i mean these are real people with real mortgages and real car payments. and, you know, there's 20,000 professionals that we represent and there's 20,000 different stories as to what they're dealing with. and being a union rep myself i've gotten a lot of phone calls, people with medical issues and medical bills and people worried about homes and children and single income families and single parents. i mean, it's sad. and it's scary.