back to working people. like guaranteeing health care for all. >> what's interesting about the argument, which struck a lot of people, is you are not talking about fairness. you are saying these people have money and it's wrong that they have money. not that they have money, they live exorbitant or wealthy lifestyles and can give more to help these people. you're saying it's wrong they have money. who is deciding whether it's wrong? >> it's clear to me why it's wrong because government policies gave the 1% every conceivable leg up. this was not by accident. as i say, this was an agenda. systematic. you go back decades, even to the time of dwight eisenhower. we had some of the highest tax rates on the wealthy this country ever saw. we had a prosperous country. we had that prosperity pretty well shared among different people, including working people in this country. we had investments in infrastructure.