>> right. that's a sign of the fact that donald trump is deeply cynical about politics because he has engaged in deeply cynical manipulations over the years. what this really brings home to me, anderson, is that chris christie is right. he's got this new book out in which he says donald trump attracted to him amateur, grifters, weaklings, convicted and unconvicted felons who were hustling jobs they were never suited for, seemingly sometimes without even a background check. and michael cohen is a great example of that. he is obviously not an upstanding individual. there is an allegation here he defrauded this i.t. consultant of tens of thousands of dollars that he got from donald trump. >> essentially stealing money, according to the reporting money that trump paid him, he kept most of it, didn't pay. >> exactly. but it's not coincidence that donald trump attracts people like that, that those are the kind of people he is comfortable with because that's the kind of person he is. >> you look at how the trump organization operates here. the money is paid largely out of trump's personal account after a