pressure and it jars something loose. it's not a policy for policy trade or negotiation. it's a base line of if you're not willing to reopen the government first, democrats aren't willing at all to talk about the policy. >> so the democrats say, no, nonstarter. most of it is repackaged. most of it is stuff you took away as chuck schumer put it. now you're trying to give it back. what about on the republican side? is this the president's deal, take it or leave it, or, knowing how much turmoil, quicksand i call it the immigration issue causes among republicans, is he willing to do more, even though the initial reaction from the hard right on this was, whoa. >> as phil said, the base line for democrats is reopen the government. and i think the problem is, and the president has said, the base line for the president is he wants the funding for his wall. and he said repeatedly, nancy said she'd only give me $1. and so the president is unwilling to reopen the government in order to start negotiations because nancy