it's come up before and once again this time with roger stone about the possibility of a pardon. when sarah sanders was asked about it yesterday she says that the president -- she was asked if the president ruled out a pardon. she says i am not aware of that and haven't had conversations around it. can you guarantee that the president won't pardon roger stone? i'm not going to talk about hypotheticals that are just ridiculous things i haven't heard about. she did say the very same thing about paul manafort when asked this question. do you read anything into this? >> i think it is hard to read anything into her response. i certainly think that stone is doing the right actions to keep himself in contention for the pardon. the real hard part of predicting what this president pardons is he doesn't follow any particular process. he has by passed the office. he certainly seems to like the fact that stone seems very