have no credibility, and contempt for people of color. he should own it, apologize and move on. >> before we go, how much time do you think he has until people start talking about impeachment or the next step which they have been very careful to avoid in order to give him the space to do the right thing? >> well, we need to understand that impeachment in virginia is just like impeachment in the frov federal government and that's for malfeasance in the office. it might be nice and interesting to talk about it, i think that's a fantasy. but i do think that it's got to donna and ralph, what candidate wants to campaign with you. again, we have the house of delegates, the state senate up and every time you want to appear with somebody, they're going to have to justify why they're appearing with you. every time you want to write a check out of your pac to them, they have to justify why they accepted that money. it's not going to work. >> and i would just say wait until the boycotts start. he doesn't go, the corporations, entities, just in north carolina and other states, they'll flex