thought that would disrupt the grand jury and the prepress publicity that could affect trials ultimately, but it was not successful. and i think it educated the american people having the witnesses out explaining what was going on, and that's what hopefully it's going to happen now. >> jeff, do you think people are aware of what a change this may mean for the president, just over the next two years? >> well, they're starting to become aware. i mean, just think about, you know, how many investigations have already started. you know, i think the public is most aware of things they can actually see on television or on the internet, and there have not been many major televised hearings. however, tomorrow morning, attorney general whitaker will testify and that will be public. michael cohen will testify, although behind closed doors at least initially. but i think -- >> lanny said tonight he is going to do a public testimony too. >> also on february 28th? >> no, before.