-- i do note think what executive privilege is intended to do. it's to protect national security information, but not behind the scenes conversations about, hey, make sure these guys don't hurt me. >> and how it works actually comes from the president it seems in this day and age it seems like a formality. what's the most important thing you were listening to? we've had some answers, but it seeks it raises more questions. >> well, first just the level of fireworks, as you put it. you might have thought that nadler and others were going to be sort of tame, at least off the bad, and on the contrary they came right after him. >> second i think it's important and what he really said is -- he took a baby step from asserting, and said i would assert it if you asked me about conversations with the president, but then he, as you say, would have to be the