>> howard dean, rebuttal. >> there is no rebuttal. this is trump's fantasy. the only people who believe this who trump said during the campaign he could shoot somebody on fifth avenue and his base wouldn't leave him. that's true. his base is only between 35 and 40%. i don't know why he is doing this. nobody believes him. nobody takes him seriously. i don't know where he cares what ann coulter thinks. nobody else does. this is a ridiculous argument by a ridiculous person who is pretending he is the president of the united states. >> what does this mean in terms of going forward? should the democrats fight this declaration of emergency? >> of course. here is why they should fight it. we actually would gain more if we didn't fight it. then we would -- >> that's why i ask. >> if we didn't fight it, we would then eventually get the presidency and we would declare emergency for climate change and an emergency for a lot of the other things, guns, for example,