i think we have to be honest what the maga head has come to represent and what the symbol has come to represent. this is an actor who was faining this attack, trying to get more money for his salary, that's a separate conversation from what's happening in society at large and the divide is happening in this country with as john said hate crimes being on the rose. they rose 30% recently, and most of these groups are white supremacists groups as evidenced by a member. united states government who amassed a huge a. weapons -- >> there's all sorts of stats. >> but if had is true, didn't jussie conflate the story? didn't he bring this forward and force people to have the conversation? and if it is troupe, didn't he attempt to paint maga supporters as these racist and homophobic people? i have to -- if the story's true -- >> but, michelle, i have to