think about as we await whatever the final stage of the mueller investigation turns out to be. >> evan, garrett raises a good point about how there's been a lot that robert mueller has accomplished, but in the eyes of president trump and his supporters, it probably doesn't matter at all if he's not able to link something directly to the president himself. >> right. and that's what's missing from this 800 pages or so of this court filing that has been filed today or has been revealed today by the special counsel. i think, look, one of the things that we were looking for is, if there is this sort of overarching narrative that andrew wiseman, the lead prosecutor in this case, has sort of explaining -- as he has hinted before, by the way, he has hinted that there is this evidence that indicates that there is this evidence between the russians, konstantin kilimnik, a business partner of paul manafort, and who according to the special counsel, is a