the meaning of it. is the transcript going to be released? is there any way to tell what whitaker actually said? >> well, unfortunately for us, this was behind closed doors today. there is no transcript. so like most things in life, it will come down to credibility determination and whose side you believe and which one sounds more like the facts. >> laura jarrett, thank you. you'll recall the question of whether the president asked him acting attorney general to take action against the southern district. it has come up before. such as this moment not long after whitaker's testimony. >> did you ask acting attorney general matthew whitaker to change the leadership of the investigation into your former personal attorney michael cohen? >> no. not at all. i don't know who gave you that -- that is more fake news. a lot of -- there is a lot of fake news out there. >> so does the president still believe that? seeing as kaitlin colins joins