it's mnuchin and ivanka trump and kellyanne conway and a best of your knowledge of people he didn't know and seemed to know it was going to happen. there was a sign -- there was a sign on the podium that said, all the numbers and everything aid out. it's not like with a sharpy. the sign was ready to go. was it ready to go and the president was going to do it anyway or looking for pelosi to say cover-up or whatever it was she said or not. >> this was definitely strategy that was already preplanned. and you know, nancy pelosi may have said the word cover-up. but if you really believe in serving the people and you really wanted to do infrastructure like you had been telling people, you would do it. the issue was the pay for. how are you going to pay for? maybe i felt like, hey, i don't know what to do and i can play this off of this impeachment game and see how it floats. well, going back to what scott said, it doesn't float well because if you look at history -- i'm giving you a bit of history lesson, scott.