i do think doesn't get as much attention as it should is each and every one of these decisions, the new york and d.c. decisions last week, they set a precedent for future legal battles on the same front. >> for sure. we're going to have a series of these. you can see which ones are coming. tax returns, over mcgahn, hope hicks. every case has precedential value. the decision of one trial judge do not necessarily dictate the decision of another one, but theyinfluential. when we get the next battle, you can bet congress will say look what the judge did in d.c. and new york. they found congress has very proud power. >> the language in both of those decisions was so declaurive and definitive, there was nothing wishy-washy about it. but at the same time, you note, ellie, you think the white house is making not a political error, a tactical error in the blanket stonewalling. why? >> i think it makes it transparent they're putting up