this may give us some idea that there was some planning that went into this. into this shooting. i think that is going to be a significant piece of information for law enforcement. the other thing we learned, which i think is interesting, is that there were victims in this shooting found on all three floors of this building. the police chief there describing it as a running gun battle, a long gun battle, that went on for quite some time. >> he was exchanging those magazines. or changing those magazines as this was going on. >> that's right. he was. he emptied some of them. and they sid he was releading so he would have more fire power. more gun power. and it tedding , it is telling s a lot because this shooter, this gunman, was ready to come in and probably kill a lot more people, had the police not stopped him in the gun battle when they did. >> i want to update our viewers. breaking news, we are told 12 people are dead, four hospitalized. shimon prokupecz joins us with the breaking news. he has more information, on who