hearings began in may of 1973, that less than 20% of americans support ted impeaching presiden nixon. that number nearly tripled just over a year later, but there wasn't cable tv then. there was no twitter. there was no social media. there was no russian trolls and on and on. you say there's a moral case here. don't worry about the political blowback, but you have these other factors that you didn't have then. >> well, i think there is not only a moral case here, which i think clearly overrides all of these wishy-washy political calculations built out of fear. but i do think there is a political case to be made as well. i've already made it. but let me elaborate here. you don't start the process, as we pointed out with nixon. he was at 18% in terms of the public wanting to impeach him. you bring the public along through the investigation. it won't work with scattered investigations in six or seven