>> we have to stop making this -- >> god forbid. even kids aren't enough, congresswoman. kids are sick. kids have died. >> they're dying. and we do need to do something and i'm one of the people that says it and will vote for it and you'll start to see it as you see these appropriations bill you have to look at what you do with kids because people found it to be a loophole. let's be honest. if you come with a kid you'll have a different route into this country than if you don't. you have kids being recycled and explo