in this primary. i know he wants to be running in the general. he's not there. >> and you have a friend who's a farmer. you know somebody who's a farmer in iowa. >> there are a couple of farmers in iowa. >> iowa is a state that obama/biden won twice and it wasn't even close in 2016, donald trump walked away with it. >> not only did donald trump walk away with it, those farmers are getting hit right now because of the tariffs and trade policy and they're still with him. i happened to talk to one who's going to see -- he said, uncle joe's in town, so we're going to des moines to see the president. here's the thing, we actually haven't seen biden campaign successfully, go toe to toe with president trump. and president trump is back in campaign mode and he's not taking it for granted. he's not letting uncle joe run around iowa and all these democrats run around iowa. he's there tonight. and i think we're going to start to see a real shift between not just democrats as they talk about policies, but the president as a campaigner and how effective of a campaigner he is. beware of those big lead numbers