do because the stakes are so high. >> you shouldn't have russians giving you anything and shouldn't have been there the way clinton did. do you see these as analogs? >> there's no equivalence between the two examples. to openly invite foreign intelligence officers representatives from a hostile foreign government to steal information, to acquire opposition research in anyway, any illegal way they might do that is one thing. for a campaign to hire a law firm, an american law firm that then turns around and hires an american research company that then contracts out with a foreign individual, that is not illegal. campaigns are allowed to hire individuals, foreign individuals and to pay those individuals for the services that they provide